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Why does swappiness not work?


Why is swappiness set to 60 by default?How can I get the amount of available memory portably across distributions?Meaning of “available” field in “free -m” commandWhy does RHEL use swap even when vm.swappiness = 1?High swapiness on VM hostreal memory usageWhat do top's %MEM and VSZ mean?swappiness and RAM usageWhat does -/+ buffers/cache means in the output of free?Expand the size of swap partitionWhy QEMU can't use the linux memory buffers memory?Linux: When time to upgrade RAMIs vm.swappiness dynamic property in linuxHow shall I understand the output of free?Swappiness set at 100, but is empty nonetheless






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We have a RHEL 7 machine, with only 2G of available RAM:



free -g
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 31 28 0 0 1 2
Swap: 15 9 5


so we decided to increase the swappiness to the maximum with vm.swappiness = 100 in /etc/sysctl.conf instead of 10, and used sysctl -p to apply the setting.



After some time we checked the status again:



 free -g
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 31 28 0 0 2 2
Swap: 15 9 5


as we can see despite the new swappiness setting, we see from free -g that the available RAM stays at 2G. Why? What is wrong here?



We expected to see 15G of used swap.



We also checked:



cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
100


so everything should work according to the new settings BUT free shows the same situation. What is going here?










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    We have a RHEL 7 machine, with only 2G of available RAM:



    free -g
    total used free shared buff/cache available
    Mem: 31 28 0 0 1 2
    Swap: 15 9 5


    so we decided to increase the swappiness to the maximum with vm.swappiness = 100 in /etc/sysctl.conf instead of 10, and used sysctl -p to apply the setting.



    After some time we checked the status again:



     free -g
    total used free shared buff/cache available
    Mem: 31 28 0 0 2 2
    Swap: 15 9 5


    as we can see despite the new swappiness setting, we see from free -g that the available RAM stays at 2G. Why? What is wrong here?



    We expected to see 15G of used swap.



    We also checked:



    cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
    100


    so everything should work according to the new settings BUT free shows the same situation. What is going here?










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      We have a RHEL 7 machine, with only 2G of available RAM:



      free -g
      total used free shared buff/cache available
      Mem: 31 28 0 0 1 2
      Swap: 15 9 5


      so we decided to increase the swappiness to the maximum with vm.swappiness = 100 in /etc/sysctl.conf instead of 10, and used sysctl -p to apply the setting.



      After some time we checked the status again:



       free -g
      total used free shared buff/cache available
      Mem: 31 28 0 0 2 2
      Swap: 15 9 5


      as we can see despite the new swappiness setting, we see from free -g that the available RAM stays at 2G. Why? What is wrong here?



      We expected to see 15G of used swap.



      We also checked:



      cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
      100


      so everything should work according to the new settings BUT free shows the same situation. What is going here?










      share|improve this question
















      We have a RHEL 7 machine, with only 2G of available RAM:



      free -g
      total used free shared buff/cache available
      Mem: 31 28 0 0 1 2
      Swap: 15 9 5


      so we decided to increase the swappiness to the maximum with vm.swappiness = 100 in /etc/sysctl.conf instead of 10, and used sysctl -p to apply the setting.



      After some time we checked the status again:



       free -g
      total used free shared buff/cache available
      Mem: 31 28 0 0 2 2
      Swap: 15 9 5


      as we can see despite the new swappiness setting, we see from free -g that the available RAM stays at 2G. Why? What is wrong here?



      We expected to see 15G of used swap.



      We also checked:



      cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
      100


      so everything should work according to the new settings BUT free shows the same situation. What is going here?







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          The swappiness setting is working as intended. Increasing swappiness doesn’t cause the system to prefer swap to anything else; increasing swappiness affects the balance between the page cache and swap. When the kernel needs to make physical memory available, it can discard generally use one of two strategies: it can discard pages from the page cache (since their content is on disk), or it can move pages to swap; swappiness determines how much it favours one strategy over another. Setting swappiness to 0 (the minimum) means the kernel will avoid swapping until it hits various high water marks, and evict pages from the page cache instead; setting it to 100 (the maximum) means the kernel will consider swapping and evicting the page cache equally.



          You’ll only see your new setting make a difference when the kernel needs more memory: you’ll see the amount of swap used increase before the amount of memory used in the cache decreases.



          You can’t use swappiness to get the kernel to keep more memory available. Physical memory is always best used rather than left free, so the kernel has no incentive to pre-emptively free physical memory (increasing available memory).



          See the RHEL 7 performance tuning guide for more information.






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          • Stephen, you mention "setting swappiness to 100 means the kernel will always prefer swapping over discarding pages from the page cache". On the other hand Thomas Nyman's answer states setting swappiness to 100 should cause the swap and page cache priorities to be equal. Are you able to comment? Thanks

            – iruvar
            Mar 27 at 11:59












          • @iruvar thanks, my explanation was indeed incorrect. In practice the effect tends to end up being that the kernel prefers swapping, presumably because of the way it takes previous scanning results into account (I haven’t thought about it enough to say for sure), but the base priorities are indeed equal when swappiness is set to 100.

            – Stephen Kitt
            Mar 27 at 14:37











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          The swappiness setting is working as intended. Increasing swappiness doesn’t cause the system to prefer swap to anything else; increasing swappiness affects the balance between the page cache and swap. When the kernel needs to make physical memory available, it can discard generally use one of two strategies: it can discard pages from the page cache (since their content is on disk), or it can move pages to swap; swappiness determines how much it favours one strategy over another. Setting swappiness to 0 (the minimum) means the kernel will avoid swapping until it hits various high water marks, and evict pages from the page cache instead; setting it to 100 (the maximum) means the kernel will consider swapping and evicting the page cache equally.



          You’ll only see your new setting make a difference when the kernel needs more memory: you’ll see the amount of swap used increase before the amount of memory used in the cache decreases.



          You can’t use swappiness to get the kernel to keep more memory available. Physical memory is always best used rather than left free, so the kernel has no incentive to pre-emptively free physical memory (increasing available memory).



          See the RHEL 7 performance tuning guide for more information.






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          • Stephen, you mention "setting swappiness to 100 means the kernel will always prefer swapping over discarding pages from the page cache". On the other hand Thomas Nyman's answer states setting swappiness to 100 should cause the swap and page cache priorities to be equal. Are you able to comment? Thanks

            – iruvar
            Mar 27 at 11:59












          • @iruvar thanks, my explanation was indeed incorrect. In practice the effect tends to end up being that the kernel prefers swapping, presumably because of the way it takes previous scanning results into account (I haven’t thought about it enough to say for sure), but the base priorities are indeed equal when swappiness is set to 100.

            – Stephen Kitt
            Mar 27 at 14:37















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          The swappiness setting is working as intended. Increasing swappiness doesn’t cause the system to prefer swap to anything else; increasing swappiness affects the balance between the page cache and swap. When the kernel needs to make physical memory available, it can discard generally use one of two strategies: it can discard pages from the page cache (since their content is on disk), or it can move pages to swap; swappiness determines how much it favours one strategy over another. Setting swappiness to 0 (the minimum) means the kernel will avoid swapping until it hits various high water marks, and evict pages from the page cache instead; setting it to 100 (the maximum) means the kernel will consider swapping and evicting the page cache equally.



          You’ll only see your new setting make a difference when the kernel needs more memory: you’ll see the amount of swap used increase before the amount of memory used in the cache decreases.



          You can’t use swappiness to get the kernel to keep more memory available. Physical memory is always best used rather than left free, so the kernel has no incentive to pre-emptively free physical memory (increasing available memory).



          See the RHEL 7 performance tuning guide for more information.






          share|improve this answer

























          • Stephen, you mention "setting swappiness to 100 means the kernel will always prefer swapping over discarding pages from the page cache". On the other hand Thomas Nyman's answer states setting swappiness to 100 should cause the swap and page cache priorities to be equal. Are you able to comment? Thanks

            – iruvar
            Mar 27 at 11:59












          • @iruvar thanks, my explanation was indeed incorrect. In practice the effect tends to end up being that the kernel prefers swapping, presumably because of the way it takes previous scanning results into account (I haven’t thought about it enough to say for sure), but the base priorities are indeed equal when swappiness is set to 100.

            – Stephen Kitt
            Mar 27 at 14:37













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          The swappiness setting is working as intended. Increasing swappiness doesn’t cause the system to prefer swap to anything else; increasing swappiness affects the balance between the page cache and swap. When the kernel needs to make physical memory available, it can discard generally use one of two strategies: it can discard pages from the page cache (since their content is on disk), or it can move pages to swap; swappiness determines how much it favours one strategy over another. Setting swappiness to 0 (the minimum) means the kernel will avoid swapping until it hits various high water marks, and evict pages from the page cache instead; setting it to 100 (the maximum) means the kernel will consider swapping and evicting the page cache equally.



          You’ll only see your new setting make a difference when the kernel needs more memory: you’ll see the amount of swap used increase before the amount of memory used in the cache decreases.



          You can’t use swappiness to get the kernel to keep more memory available. Physical memory is always best used rather than left free, so the kernel has no incentive to pre-emptively free physical memory (increasing available memory).



          See the RHEL 7 performance tuning guide for more information.






          share|improve this answer















          The swappiness setting is working as intended. Increasing swappiness doesn’t cause the system to prefer swap to anything else; increasing swappiness affects the balance between the page cache and swap. When the kernel needs to make physical memory available, it can discard generally use one of two strategies: it can discard pages from the page cache (since their content is on disk), or it can move pages to swap; swappiness determines how much it favours one strategy over another. Setting swappiness to 0 (the minimum) means the kernel will avoid swapping until it hits various high water marks, and evict pages from the page cache instead; setting it to 100 (the maximum) means the kernel will consider swapping and evicting the page cache equally.



          You’ll only see your new setting make a difference when the kernel needs more memory: you’ll see the amount of swap used increase before the amount of memory used in the cache decreases.



          You can’t use swappiness to get the kernel to keep more memory available. Physical memory is always best used rather than left free, so the kernel has no incentive to pre-emptively free physical memory (increasing available memory).



          See the RHEL 7 performance tuning guide for more information.







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          answered Jan 9 at 13:37









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          • Stephen, you mention "setting swappiness to 100 means the kernel will always prefer swapping over discarding pages from the page cache". On the other hand Thomas Nyman's answer states setting swappiness to 100 should cause the swap and page cache priorities to be equal. Are you able to comment? Thanks

            – iruvar
            Mar 27 at 11:59












          • @iruvar thanks, my explanation was indeed incorrect. In practice the effect tends to end up being that the kernel prefers swapping, presumably because of the way it takes previous scanning results into account (I haven’t thought about it enough to say for sure), but the base priorities are indeed equal when swappiness is set to 100.

            – Stephen Kitt
            Mar 27 at 14:37

















          • Stephen, you mention "setting swappiness to 100 means the kernel will always prefer swapping over discarding pages from the page cache". On the other hand Thomas Nyman's answer states setting swappiness to 100 should cause the swap and page cache priorities to be equal. Are you able to comment? Thanks

            – iruvar
            Mar 27 at 11:59












          • @iruvar thanks, my explanation was indeed incorrect. In practice the effect tends to end up being that the kernel prefers swapping, presumably because of the way it takes previous scanning results into account (I haven’t thought about it enough to say for sure), but the base priorities are indeed equal when swappiness is set to 100.

            – Stephen Kitt
            Mar 27 at 14:37
















          Stephen, you mention "setting swappiness to 100 means the kernel will always prefer swapping over discarding pages from the page cache". On the other hand Thomas Nyman's answer states setting swappiness to 100 should cause the swap and page cache priorities to be equal. Are you able to comment? Thanks

          – iruvar
          Mar 27 at 11:59






          Stephen, you mention "setting swappiness to 100 means the kernel will always prefer swapping over discarding pages from the page cache". On the other hand Thomas Nyman's answer states setting swappiness to 100 should cause the swap and page cache priorities to be equal. Are you able to comment? Thanks

          – iruvar
          Mar 27 at 11:59














          @iruvar thanks, my explanation was indeed incorrect. In practice the effect tends to end up being that the kernel prefers swapping, presumably because of the way it takes previous scanning results into account (I haven’t thought about it enough to say for sure), but the base priorities are indeed equal when swappiness is set to 100.

          – Stephen Kitt
          Mar 27 at 14:37





          @iruvar thanks, my explanation was indeed incorrect. In practice the effect tends to end up being that the kernel prefers swapping, presumably because of the way it takes previous scanning results into account (I haven’t thought about it enough to say for sure), but the base priorities are indeed equal when swappiness is set to 100.

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