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I'm looking for a way to have a tmpfs-like file system that can be unlimited in size, but will use a specified amount of RAM after which the "oversize" data will be stored on another disk-backed filesystem



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I'm running on a SSD-only system, with low available space (usually < 3 GB), so I don't want to reserve any space for SWAP or similar (that's my main requirement)



Do you know of any solution that would fit my use-case ?










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  • The functionality you desire is already the default behaviour. Linux automatically caches files in RAM for you. Maybe you should describe your use case in more detail.

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I'm looking for a way to have a tmpfs-like file system that can be unlimited in size, but will use a specified amount of RAM after which the "oversize" data will be stored on another disk-backed filesystem



tmpfs



I'm running on a SSD-only system, with low available space (usually < 3 GB), so I don't want to reserve any space for SWAP or similar (that's my main requirement)



Do you know of any solution that would fit my use-case ?










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I'm looking for a way to have a tmpfs-like file system that can be unlimited in size, but will use a specified amount of RAM after which the "oversize" data will be stored on another disk-backed filesystem



tmpfs



I'm running on a SSD-only system, with low available space (usually < 3 GB), so I don't want to reserve any space for SWAP or similar (that's my main requirement)



Do you know of any solution that would fit my use-case ?










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I'm looking for a way to have a tmpfs-like file system that can be unlimited in size, but will use a specified amount of RAM after which the "oversize" data will be stored on another disk-backed filesystem



tmpfs



I'm running on a SSD-only system, with low available space (usually < 3 GB), so I don't want to reserve any space for SWAP or similar (that's my main requirement)



Do you know of any solution that would fit my use-case ?







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  • The functionality you desire is already the default behaviour. Linux automatically caches files in RAM for you. Maybe you should describe your use case in more detail.

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The functionality you desire is already the default behaviour. Linux automatically caches files in RAM for you. Maybe you should describe your use case in more detail.

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You can use dmsetup to set a linear device made of a /dev/ramX plus your /dev/sdX disk-device.



For instance, from the command prompt type:



dmsetup create mydev << EOF
> 0 65536 linear /dev/ram0 0
> 65536 262144 linear /dev/sdb 0
> EOF


The above creates a logical device named mydev made of a 32MB (65536 sectors) ramdisk plus the first 128MB (262144 sectors) of /dev/sdb. Of course replace /dev/sdb with the actual device file for your disk.



You may also want to use the exact size (or a bit less) of your disk or partition, and for that you need to know that size expressed in 512-bytes sectors. In order to know that for e.g. the /dev/sdb1 device you may do:



grep sdb1 /proc/partitions


and then use the big number that appears on the left of the device name, multiplied by 2. (because that big number is expressed in 1024-bytes blocks).



Then you have to format mydev with your file-system type of choice. For instance:



mkfs.ext4 /dev/mapper/mydev


Finally mount it with:



mount /dev/mapper/mydev /mnt


Replace /mnt with the actual directory you want to use as mount point, and enjoy.



To remove everything, do:



umount /mnt
dmsetup remove mydev


However it’s worth saying that this setup is less efficient than direct tmpfs filesystems, because tmpfs is already a (virtual) file-system on top of Linux's virtual memory manager, whereas ramdisks need an additional operation of memory-pages copying, plus they still require a regular file-system with its overhead on top of them.






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    You can use dmsetup to set a linear device made of a /dev/ramX plus your /dev/sdX disk-device.



    For instance, from the command prompt type:



    dmsetup create mydev << EOF
    > 0 65536 linear /dev/ram0 0
    > 65536 262144 linear /dev/sdb 0
    > EOF


    The above creates a logical device named mydev made of a 32MB (65536 sectors) ramdisk plus the first 128MB (262144 sectors) of /dev/sdb. Of course replace /dev/sdb with the actual device file for your disk.



    You may also want to use the exact size (or a bit less) of your disk or partition, and for that you need to know that size expressed in 512-bytes sectors. In order to know that for e.g. the /dev/sdb1 device you may do:



    grep sdb1 /proc/partitions


    and then use the big number that appears on the left of the device name, multiplied by 2. (because that big number is expressed in 1024-bytes blocks).



    Then you have to format mydev with your file-system type of choice. For instance:



    mkfs.ext4 /dev/mapper/mydev


    Finally mount it with:



    mount /dev/mapper/mydev /mnt


    Replace /mnt with the actual directory you want to use as mount point, and enjoy.



    To remove everything, do:



    umount /mnt
    dmsetup remove mydev


    However it’s worth saying that this setup is less efficient than direct tmpfs filesystems, because tmpfs is already a (virtual) file-system on top of Linux's virtual memory manager, whereas ramdisks need an additional operation of memory-pages copying, plus they still require a regular file-system with its overhead on top of them.






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      You can use dmsetup to set a linear device made of a /dev/ramX plus your /dev/sdX disk-device.



      For instance, from the command prompt type:



      dmsetup create mydev << EOF
      > 0 65536 linear /dev/ram0 0
      > 65536 262144 linear /dev/sdb 0
      > EOF


      The above creates a logical device named mydev made of a 32MB (65536 sectors) ramdisk plus the first 128MB (262144 sectors) of /dev/sdb. Of course replace /dev/sdb with the actual device file for your disk.



      You may also want to use the exact size (or a bit less) of your disk or partition, and for that you need to know that size expressed in 512-bytes sectors. In order to know that for e.g. the /dev/sdb1 device you may do:



      grep sdb1 /proc/partitions


      and then use the big number that appears on the left of the device name, multiplied by 2. (because that big number is expressed in 1024-bytes blocks).



      Then you have to format mydev with your file-system type of choice. For instance:



      mkfs.ext4 /dev/mapper/mydev


      Finally mount it with:



      mount /dev/mapper/mydev /mnt


      Replace /mnt with the actual directory you want to use as mount point, and enjoy.



      To remove everything, do:



      umount /mnt
      dmsetup remove mydev


      However it’s worth saying that this setup is less efficient than direct tmpfs filesystems, because tmpfs is already a (virtual) file-system on top of Linux's virtual memory manager, whereas ramdisks need an additional operation of memory-pages copying, plus they still require a regular file-system with its overhead on top of them.






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        You can use dmsetup to set a linear device made of a /dev/ramX plus your /dev/sdX disk-device.



        For instance, from the command prompt type:



        dmsetup create mydev << EOF
        > 0 65536 linear /dev/ram0 0
        > 65536 262144 linear /dev/sdb 0
        > EOF


        The above creates a logical device named mydev made of a 32MB (65536 sectors) ramdisk plus the first 128MB (262144 sectors) of /dev/sdb. Of course replace /dev/sdb with the actual device file for your disk.



        You may also want to use the exact size (or a bit less) of your disk or partition, and for that you need to know that size expressed in 512-bytes sectors. In order to know that for e.g. the /dev/sdb1 device you may do:



        grep sdb1 /proc/partitions


        and then use the big number that appears on the left of the device name, multiplied by 2. (because that big number is expressed in 1024-bytes blocks).



        Then you have to format mydev with your file-system type of choice. For instance:



        mkfs.ext4 /dev/mapper/mydev


        Finally mount it with:



        mount /dev/mapper/mydev /mnt


        Replace /mnt with the actual directory you want to use as mount point, and enjoy.



        To remove everything, do:



        umount /mnt
        dmsetup remove mydev


        However it’s worth saying that this setup is less efficient than direct tmpfs filesystems, because tmpfs is already a (virtual) file-system on top of Linux's virtual memory manager, whereas ramdisks need an additional operation of memory-pages copying, plus they still require a regular file-system with its overhead on top of them.






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        You can use dmsetup to set a linear device made of a /dev/ramX plus your /dev/sdX disk-device.



        For instance, from the command prompt type:



        dmsetup create mydev << EOF
        > 0 65536 linear /dev/ram0 0
        > 65536 262144 linear /dev/sdb 0
        > EOF


        The above creates a logical device named mydev made of a 32MB (65536 sectors) ramdisk plus the first 128MB (262144 sectors) of /dev/sdb. Of course replace /dev/sdb with the actual device file for your disk.



        You may also want to use the exact size (or a bit less) of your disk or partition, and for that you need to know that size expressed in 512-bytes sectors. In order to know that for e.g. the /dev/sdb1 device you may do:



        grep sdb1 /proc/partitions


        and then use the big number that appears on the left of the device name, multiplied by 2. (because that big number is expressed in 1024-bytes blocks).



        Then you have to format mydev with your file-system type of choice. For instance:



        mkfs.ext4 /dev/mapper/mydev


        Finally mount it with:



        mount /dev/mapper/mydev /mnt


        Replace /mnt with the actual directory you want to use as mount point, and enjoy.



        To remove everything, do:



        umount /mnt
        dmsetup remove mydev


        However it’s worth saying that this setup is less efficient than direct tmpfs filesystems, because tmpfs is already a (virtual) file-system on top of Linux's virtual memory manager, whereas ramdisks need an additional operation of memory-pages copying, plus they still require a regular file-system with its overhead on top of them.







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