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The command ps aux | grep ] will list all the running kernel threads (the kernel threads that are crated by the kernel, and the kernel threads that are crated by someone else).



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          Kernel threads are always created by the kernel, and they’re always in process group 0, so you can filter on that:



          ps -e -o pid,ppid,pgid,args | awk '$3 == 0'


          (There doesn’t seem to be a way of filtering on process group id in ps; in theory one could filter on session 0 but ps doesn’t like that.)



          You can also look for processes whose parent is kthreadd, the kernel thread dæmon:



          ps --pid 2 --ppid 2 -o pid,ppid,pgid,args


          (including pid 2 and its children).






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          Kernel threads are always created by the kernel, and they’re always in process group 0, so you can filter on that:



          ps -e -o pid,ppid,pgid,args | awk '$3 == 0'


          (There doesn’t seem to be a way of filtering on process group id in ps; in theory one could filter on session 0 but ps doesn’t like that.)



          You can also look for processes whose parent is kthreadd, the kernel thread dæmon:



          ps --pid 2 --ppid 2 -o pid,ppid,pgid,args


          (including pid 2 and its children).






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          • "Kernel threads are always created by the kernel" By "Kernel" do you mean the kernel and the kernel modules or just the kernel by itself (because I think kthread_create() is used by kernel modules to create kernel threads)?

            – user343344
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          • Yes, both the kernel and kernel modules; I tend not to distinguish them since most modules can be built in, and once loaded, modules are effectively part of the kernel.

            – Stephen Kitt
            yesterday











          • You could perhaps distinguish between threads started by the “core” kernel from those started by modules by looking at etimes in ps.

            – Stephen Kitt
            yesterday















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          Kernel threads are always created by the kernel, and they’re always in process group 0, so you can filter on that:



          ps -e -o pid,ppid,pgid,args | awk '$3 == 0'


          (There doesn’t seem to be a way of filtering on process group id in ps; in theory one could filter on session 0 but ps doesn’t like that.)



          You can also look for processes whose parent is kthreadd, the kernel thread dæmon:



          ps --pid 2 --ppid 2 -o pid,ppid,pgid,args


          (including pid 2 and its children).






          share|improve this answer























          • "Kernel threads are always created by the kernel" By "Kernel" do you mean the kernel and the kernel modules or just the kernel by itself (because I think kthread_create() is used by kernel modules to create kernel threads)?

            – user343344
            yesterday











          • Yes, both the kernel and kernel modules; I tend not to distinguish them since most modules can be built in, and once loaded, modules are effectively part of the kernel.

            – Stephen Kitt
            yesterday











          • You could perhaps distinguish between threads started by the “core” kernel from those started by modules by looking at etimes in ps.

            – Stephen Kitt
            yesterday













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          Kernel threads are always created by the kernel, and they’re always in process group 0, so you can filter on that:



          ps -e -o pid,ppid,pgid,args | awk '$3 == 0'


          (There doesn’t seem to be a way of filtering on process group id in ps; in theory one could filter on session 0 but ps doesn’t like that.)



          You can also look for processes whose parent is kthreadd, the kernel thread dæmon:



          ps --pid 2 --ppid 2 -o pid,ppid,pgid,args


          (including pid 2 and its children).






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          Kernel threads are always created by the kernel, and they’re always in process group 0, so you can filter on that:



          ps -e -o pid,ppid,pgid,args | awk '$3 == 0'


          (There doesn’t seem to be a way of filtering on process group id in ps; in theory one could filter on session 0 but ps doesn’t like that.)



          You can also look for processes whose parent is kthreadd, the kernel thread dæmon:



          ps --pid 2 --ppid 2 -o pid,ppid,pgid,args


          (including pid 2 and its children).







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          • "Kernel threads are always created by the kernel" By "Kernel" do you mean the kernel and the kernel modules or just the kernel by itself (because I think kthread_create() is used by kernel modules to create kernel threads)?

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          • Yes, both the kernel and kernel modules; I tend not to distinguish them since most modules can be built in, and once loaded, modules are effectively part of the kernel.

            – Stephen Kitt
            yesterday











          • You could perhaps distinguish between threads started by the “core” kernel from those started by modules by looking at etimes in ps.

            – Stephen Kitt
            yesterday

















          • "Kernel threads are always created by the kernel" By "Kernel" do you mean the kernel and the kernel modules or just the kernel by itself (because I think kthread_create() is used by kernel modules to create kernel threads)?

            – user343344
            yesterday











          • Yes, both the kernel and kernel modules; I tend not to distinguish them since most modules can be built in, and once loaded, modules are effectively part of the kernel.

            – Stephen Kitt
            yesterday











          • You could perhaps distinguish between threads started by the “core” kernel from those started by modules by looking at etimes in ps.

            – Stephen Kitt
            yesterday
















          "Kernel threads are always created by the kernel" By "Kernel" do you mean the kernel and the kernel modules or just the kernel by itself (because I think kthread_create() is used by kernel modules to create kernel threads)?

          – user343344
          yesterday





          "Kernel threads are always created by the kernel" By "Kernel" do you mean the kernel and the kernel modules or just the kernel by itself (because I think kthread_create() is used by kernel modules to create kernel threads)?

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          yesterday













          Yes, both the kernel and kernel modules; I tend not to distinguish them since most modules can be built in, and once loaded, modules are effectively part of the kernel.

          – Stephen Kitt
          yesterday





          Yes, both the kernel and kernel modules; I tend not to distinguish them since most modules can be built in, and once loaded, modules are effectively part of the kernel.

          – Stephen Kitt
          yesterday













          You could perhaps distinguish between threads started by the “core” kernel from those started by modules by looking at etimes in ps.

          – Stephen Kitt
          yesterday





          You could perhaps distinguish between threads started by the “core” kernel from those started by modules by looking at etimes in ps.

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