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Trig Subsitution When There's No Square Root


Integral of $int sqrt1-4x^2$Struggling with an integral with trig substitutionUsing trig substitution, how do you solve an integral when the leading coefficient under the radical isn't 1?How do you solve for bounds when performing trig substitution and knowing solving the trig functions yields multiple correct values of $theta$?Domain of a square root natural log functionHelp with an integral of binomial differentialTrig substitution for $int fracx^2dxsqrt4 - x^2$Trigonometric integral with square root (residue theorem)Trig Subs issuesNot getting the right answer with alternate completing the square method on $intfracx^2sqrt3+4x-4x^2^3dx$













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I would say I'm rather good at doing trig substitution when there is a square root, but when there isn't one, I'm lost.



I'm currently trying to solve the following question:



$Ar int_a^infty fracdx(r^2+x^2)^(3/2)$



Anyway, so far, I have that:



$x = rtan theta$



$dx = rsec^2 theta$



$sqrt (r^2+x^2) = rsectheta$



The triangle I based the above values on:



Triangle I based the above values on



Given that $(r^2+x^2)^(3/2)$ can be rewritten as $ (sqrtr^2+x^2)^3$, I begin to solve.
Please pretend I have $lim limits_b to infty$ in front of every line please.



= $Ar int_a^b fracrsec^2theta(rsectheta)^3dtheta$



= $Ar int_a^b fracrsec^2thetar^3sec^6thetadtheta$



= $fracAr int_a^b frac1sec^4thetadtheta$



= $fracAr int_a^b cos^4theta dtheta$



= $fracAr int_a^b (cos^2theta)^2 dtheta$



= $fracAr int_a^b [ frac121+cos(2theta)) ]^2dtheta$



= $fracA4r int_a^b 1 + 2cos(2theta) + cos^2(2theta) dtheta$



= $fracA4r int_a^b 1 + 2cos(2theta) dtheta quad+quad fracA4r int_a^b cos^2(2theta) dtheta$



And from there it gets really messed up and I end up with a weird semi-final answer of $fracA4r[2theta+sin(2theta)] + fracA32r [4theta+sin(4theta)]$ which is wrong after I make substitutions.



I already know that the final answer is $fracAr(1-fracasqrtr^2+a^2)$, but I really want to understand this.










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    The denominator in the 2nd line is $r^3sec^3theta$ instead of $r^3sec^6theta$.
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$begingroup$


I would say I'm rather good at doing trig substitution when there is a square root, but when there isn't one, I'm lost.



I'm currently trying to solve the following question:



$Ar int_a^infty fracdx(r^2+x^2)^(3/2)$



Anyway, so far, I have that:



$x = rtan theta$



$dx = rsec^2 theta$



$sqrt (r^2+x^2) = rsectheta$



The triangle I based the above values on:



Triangle I based the above values on



Given that $(r^2+x^2)^(3/2)$ can be rewritten as $ (sqrtr^2+x^2)^3$, I begin to solve.
Please pretend I have $lim limits_b to infty$ in front of every line please.



= $Ar int_a^b fracrsec^2theta(rsectheta)^3dtheta$



= $Ar int_a^b fracrsec^2thetar^3sec^6thetadtheta$



= $fracAr int_a^b frac1sec^4thetadtheta$



= $fracAr int_a^b cos^4theta dtheta$



= $fracAr int_a^b (cos^2theta)^2 dtheta$



= $fracAr int_a^b [ frac121+cos(2theta)) ]^2dtheta$



= $fracA4r int_a^b 1 + 2cos(2theta) + cos^2(2theta) dtheta$



= $fracA4r int_a^b 1 + 2cos(2theta) dtheta quad+quad fracA4r int_a^b cos^2(2theta) dtheta$



And from there it gets really messed up and I end up with a weird semi-final answer of $fracA4r[2theta+sin(2theta)] + fracA32r [4theta+sin(4theta)]$ which is wrong after I make substitutions.



I already know that the final answer is $fracAr(1-fracasqrtr^2+a^2)$, but I really want to understand this.










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    $begingroup$
    The denominator in the 2nd line is $r^3sec^3theta$ instead of $r^3sec^6theta$.
    $endgroup$
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$begingroup$


I would say I'm rather good at doing trig substitution when there is a square root, but when there isn't one, I'm lost.



I'm currently trying to solve the following question:



$Ar int_a^infty fracdx(r^2+x^2)^(3/2)$



Anyway, so far, I have that:



$x = rtan theta$



$dx = rsec^2 theta$



$sqrt (r^2+x^2) = rsectheta$



The triangle I based the above values on:



Triangle I based the above values on



Given that $(r^2+x^2)^(3/2)$ can be rewritten as $ (sqrtr^2+x^2)^3$, I begin to solve.
Please pretend I have $lim limits_b to infty$ in front of every line please.



= $Ar int_a^b fracrsec^2theta(rsectheta)^3dtheta$



= $Ar int_a^b fracrsec^2thetar^3sec^6thetadtheta$



= $fracAr int_a^b frac1sec^4thetadtheta$



= $fracAr int_a^b cos^4theta dtheta$



= $fracAr int_a^b (cos^2theta)^2 dtheta$



= $fracAr int_a^b [ frac121+cos(2theta)) ]^2dtheta$



= $fracA4r int_a^b 1 + 2cos(2theta) + cos^2(2theta) dtheta$



= $fracA4r int_a^b 1 + 2cos(2theta) dtheta quad+quad fracA4r int_a^b cos^2(2theta) dtheta$



And from there it gets really messed up and I end up with a weird semi-final answer of $fracA4r[2theta+sin(2theta)] + fracA32r [4theta+sin(4theta)]$ which is wrong after I make substitutions.



I already know that the final answer is $fracAr(1-fracasqrtr^2+a^2)$, but I really want to understand this.










share|cite|improve this question











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I would say I'm rather good at doing trig substitution when there is a square root, but when there isn't one, I'm lost.



I'm currently trying to solve the following question:



$Ar int_a^infty fracdx(r^2+x^2)^(3/2)$



Anyway, so far, I have that:



$x = rtan theta$



$dx = rsec^2 theta$



$sqrt (r^2+x^2) = rsectheta$



The triangle I based the above values on:



Triangle I based the above values on



Given that $(r^2+x^2)^(3/2)$ can be rewritten as $ (sqrtr^2+x^2)^3$, I begin to solve.
Please pretend I have $lim limits_b to infty$ in front of every line please.



= $Ar int_a^b fracrsec^2theta(rsectheta)^3dtheta$



= $Ar int_a^b fracrsec^2thetar^3sec^6thetadtheta$



= $fracAr int_a^b frac1sec^4thetadtheta$



= $fracAr int_a^b cos^4theta dtheta$



= $fracAr int_a^b (cos^2theta)^2 dtheta$



= $fracAr int_a^b [ frac121+cos(2theta)) ]^2dtheta$



= $fracA4r int_a^b 1 + 2cos(2theta) + cos^2(2theta) dtheta$



= $fracA4r int_a^b 1 + 2cos(2theta) dtheta quad+quad fracA4r int_a^b cos^2(2theta) dtheta$



And from there it gets really messed up and I end up with a weird semi-final answer of $fracA4r[2theta+sin(2theta)] + fracA32r [4theta+sin(4theta)]$ which is wrong after I make substitutions.



I already know that the final answer is $fracAr(1-fracasqrtr^2+a^2)$, but I really want to understand this.







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    $begingroup$
    The denominator in the 2nd line is $r^3sec^3theta$ instead of $r^3sec^6theta$.
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    $begingroup$
    The denominator in the 2nd line is $r^3sec^3theta$ instead of $r^3sec^6theta$.
    $endgroup$
    – Kay K.
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The denominator in the 2nd line is $r^3sec^3theta$ instead of $r^3sec^6theta$.
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You are doing $(rsectheta)^3=r^6sec^6theta$. Oops! ;-)




There's a slicker way to do it.



Get rid of the $r$ with $x=ru$ to begin with, so your integral becomes
$$
fracArint_a/r^inftyfrac1(1+u^2)^3/2,du
$$

Now let's concentrate on the antiderivative
$$
intfrac1(1+u^2)^3/2,du=
intfrac1+u^2-u^2(1+u^2)^3/2,du=
intfrac1(1+u^2)^1/2,du-intfracu^2(1+u^2)^3/2,du
$$

Do the second term by parts
$$
int ufracu(1+u^2)^3/2,du=
-fracu(1+u^2)^1/2+intfrac1(1+u^2)^1/2,du
$$

See what happens?
$$
intfrac1(1+u^2)^3/2,du=fracu(1+u^2)^1/2+c
$$

which we can verify by direct differentiation.



Now
$$
left[fracu(1+u^2)^1/2right]_a/r^infty=1-fraca/r(1+(a/r)^2)^1/2
=1-fraca(r^2+a^2)^1/2
$$

and your integral is indeed
$$
fracArleft(1-fracasqrtr^2+a^2right)
$$






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    Firstly you made an error in the first line of working
    $$(rsec(theta))^3=r^3sec^3(theta)$$
    Secondly, you need to change the range of integration after performing a substitution. If $theta=arctan(fracxr)$ then the limits should change as $x=a implies theta=arctan(fracar)$ also $x=infty implies theta=fracpi2$.






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      $begingroup$

      You are doing $(rsectheta)^3=r^6sec^6theta$. Oops! ;-)




      There's a slicker way to do it.



      Get rid of the $r$ with $x=ru$ to begin with, so your integral becomes
      $$
      fracArint_a/r^inftyfrac1(1+u^2)^3/2,du
      $$

      Now let's concentrate on the antiderivative
      $$
      intfrac1(1+u^2)^3/2,du=
      intfrac1+u^2-u^2(1+u^2)^3/2,du=
      intfrac1(1+u^2)^1/2,du-intfracu^2(1+u^2)^3/2,du
      $$

      Do the second term by parts
      $$
      int ufracu(1+u^2)^3/2,du=
      -fracu(1+u^2)^1/2+intfrac1(1+u^2)^1/2,du
      $$

      See what happens?
      $$
      intfrac1(1+u^2)^3/2,du=fracu(1+u^2)^1/2+c
      $$

      which we can verify by direct differentiation.



      Now
      $$
      left[fracu(1+u^2)^1/2right]_a/r^infty=1-fraca/r(1+(a/r)^2)^1/2
      =1-fraca(r^2+a^2)^1/2
      $$

      and your integral is indeed
      $$
      fracArleft(1-fracasqrtr^2+a^2right)
      $$






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        $begingroup$

        You are doing $(rsectheta)^3=r^6sec^6theta$. Oops! ;-)




        There's a slicker way to do it.



        Get rid of the $r$ with $x=ru$ to begin with, so your integral becomes
        $$
        fracArint_a/r^inftyfrac1(1+u^2)^3/2,du
        $$

        Now let's concentrate on the antiderivative
        $$
        intfrac1(1+u^2)^3/2,du=
        intfrac1+u^2-u^2(1+u^2)^3/2,du=
        intfrac1(1+u^2)^1/2,du-intfracu^2(1+u^2)^3/2,du
        $$

        Do the second term by parts
        $$
        int ufracu(1+u^2)^3/2,du=
        -fracu(1+u^2)^1/2+intfrac1(1+u^2)^1/2,du
        $$

        See what happens?
        $$
        intfrac1(1+u^2)^3/2,du=fracu(1+u^2)^1/2+c
        $$

        which we can verify by direct differentiation.



        Now
        $$
        left[fracu(1+u^2)^1/2right]_a/r^infty=1-fraca/r(1+(a/r)^2)^1/2
        =1-fraca(r^2+a^2)^1/2
        $$

        and your integral is indeed
        $$
        fracArleft(1-fracasqrtr^2+a^2right)
        $$






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          $begingroup$

          You are doing $(rsectheta)^3=r^6sec^6theta$. Oops! ;-)




          There's a slicker way to do it.



          Get rid of the $r$ with $x=ru$ to begin with, so your integral becomes
          $$
          fracArint_a/r^inftyfrac1(1+u^2)^3/2,du
          $$

          Now let's concentrate on the antiderivative
          $$
          intfrac1(1+u^2)^3/2,du=
          intfrac1+u^2-u^2(1+u^2)^3/2,du=
          intfrac1(1+u^2)^1/2,du-intfracu^2(1+u^2)^3/2,du
          $$

          Do the second term by parts
          $$
          int ufracu(1+u^2)^3/2,du=
          -fracu(1+u^2)^1/2+intfrac1(1+u^2)^1/2,du
          $$

          See what happens?
          $$
          intfrac1(1+u^2)^3/2,du=fracu(1+u^2)^1/2+c
          $$

          which we can verify by direct differentiation.



          Now
          $$
          left[fracu(1+u^2)^1/2right]_a/r^infty=1-fraca/r(1+(a/r)^2)^1/2
          =1-fraca(r^2+a^2)^1/2
          $$

          and your integral is indeed
          $$
          fracArleft(1-fracasqrtr^2+a^2right)
          $$






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          You are doing $(rsectheta)^3=r^6sec^6theta$. Oops! ;-)




          There's a slicker way to do it.



          Get rid of the $r$ with $x=ru$ to begin with, so your integral becomes
          $$
          fracArint_a/r^inftyfrac1(1+u^2)^3/2,du
          $$

          Now let's concentrate on the antiderivative
          $$
          intfrac1(1+u^2)^3/2,du=
          intfrac1+u^2-u^2(1+u^2)^3/2,du=
          intfrac1(1+u^2)^1/2,du-intfracu^2(1+u^2)^3/2,du
          $$

          Do the second term by parts
          $$
          int ufracu(1+u^2)^3/2,du=
          -fracu(1+u^2)^1/2+intfrac1(1+u^2)^1/2,du
          $$

          See what happens?
          $$
          intfrac1(1+u^2)^3/2,du=fracu(1+u^2)^1/2+c
          $$

          which we can verify by direct differentiation.



          Now
          $$
          left[fracu(1+u^2)^1/2right]_a/r^infty=1-fraca/r(1+(a/r)^2)^1/2
          =1-fraca(r^2+a^2)^1/2
          $$

          and your integral is indeed
          $$
          fracArleft(1-fracasqrtr^2+a^2right)
          $$







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              Firstly you made an error in the first line of working
              $$(rsec(theta))^3=r^3sec^3(theta)$$
              Secondly, you need to change the range of integration after performing a substitution. If $theta=arctan(fracxr)$ then the limits should change as $x=a implies theta=arctan(fracar)$ also $x=infty implies theta=fracpi2$.






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                Firstly you made an error in the first line of working
                $$(rsec(theta))^3=r^3sec^3(theta)$$
                Secondly, you need to change the range of integration after performing a substitution. If $theta=arctan(fracxr)$ then the limits should change as $x=a implies theta=arctan(fracar)$ also $x=infty implies theta=fracpi2$.






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                  Firstly you made an error in the first line of working
                  $$(rsec(theta))^3=r^3sec^3(theta)$$
                  Secondly, you need to change the range of integration after performing a substitution. If $theta=arctan(fracxr)$ then the limits should change as $x=a implies theta=arctan(fracar)$ also $x=infty implies theta=fracpi2$.






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                  Firstly you made an error in the first line of working
                  $$(rsec(theta))^3=r^3sec^3(theta)$$
                  Secondly, you need to change the range of integration after performing a substitution. If $theta=arctan(fracxr)$ then the limits should change as $x=a implies theta=arctan(fracar)$ also $x=infty implies theta=fracpi2$.







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                      2017 IndyCar Series Contents Series news Teams and drivers Schedule Season summary Footnotes References External links Navigation menu"INDYCAR: Initial 2018 bodywork concepts unveiled"the original"IndyCar confirms switch to Performance Friction brakes in 2017""AJ Foyt Racing will switch to Chevy"the original"Carlos Munoz, Conor Daly will drive for AJ Foyt Racing""Zach Veach's Indy 500 Debut Confirmed with Foyt""No mass exodus from Honda after Ganassi switch""Ex-F1 driver Sato joins Andretti Autosport for 2017 IndyCar season""IndyCar's Ryan Hunter-Reay, sponsor DHL paired through 2020""hhgregg and Andretti Autosport announce partnership for key races in 2016""INDYCAR: Rossi re-signs with Andretti"the original"McLaren Formula 1 - Fernando Alonso to race at Indy 500 with McLaren, Honda and Andretti Autosport""Shank will finally take part in Indy 500 with Harvey, Andretti | MotorSportsTalk""Andretti adds Jack Harvey to Indy 500 field""Ganassi switches to Honda power for 2017""INDYCAR: Chilton returns to Ganassi"the original"IndyCar silly season: Who's going where in 2017?""INDYCAR: Kanaan, NTT Data return to Ganassi"the original"Kimball to remain at Ganassi for 2017""Coyne confirms Bourdais for 2017 IndyCar season""Davison to sub for Bourdais in Indy 500"the original"Gutierrez confirmed for Detroit IndyCar debut""Gutierrez returns with Coyne for rest of 2017 season""Vautier to drive for Coyne at Texas"the original"INDYCAR: Coyne confirms Jones for 2017"the original"Pippa Mann returns to Coyne for Indy 500""Karam, Dreyer & Reinbold teaming up again for Indianapolis 500""Pigot to return to Ed Carpenter Racing""Hildebrand confirmed as full-time Ed Carpenter driver""Veach to replace injured Hildebrand at Barber"the originalNew Team Harding Racing Enters Chaves for 101st Indianapolis 500"Juncos Racing Announces Entry in 101st Running of the Indianapolis 500 :: Juncos Racing""Juncos confirms Pigot for Indy 500""Saavedra confirmed in Juncos' second 500 entry"the original"Lazier confirms Indy 500 run after son's USF2000 debut"the original"Claman DeMelo to race for RLLR at Sonoma"the original"Rahal signs Servia and ace engineer for 2017""IndyCar: Aleshin returns with Schmidt"the original"Aleshin replaced by Saavedra for Toronto""Jack Harvey will pilot SPM No. 7 car at Watkins Glen, Sonoma""Jay Howard confirmed in Tony Stewart's supported SPM Indy entry""INDYCAR: Newgarden to wave the flag at Penske"the original"Pagenaud opts for No. 1 in 2017"the original"Penske confirms Newgarden for 2017""Montoya to stay with Team Penske in 2017""Target leaving IndyCar after 27 seasons with Chip Ganassi""Cavin: IndyCar could see complete driver/team shakeup in 2017""End of the road for KV Racing?""KV Racing confirms closure, equipment sold to Juncos""Juncos confirms IndyCar Series entry"the original"Juncos readies IndyCar program, aims for '17 500"the original"Harding Racing to add Texas, Pocono to schedule"the original"Sato signs with Andretti Autosport for 2017""INDYCAR: Aleshin in Doubt at SPM"the original"Long Beach notebook: JR Hildebrand breaks hand""Hildebrand cleared to return at Phoenix"the original"Bourdais to undergo surgery on multiple fractures""Aleshin loses Schmidt Peterson IndyCar ride""Saavedra in at SPM for Pocono, Gateway"the original"Bourdais to make return at Gateway"the original"The IndyCar Grand Prix no longer is sponsored by Angie's List""2017 IndyCar Series rulebook""2017 Verizon IndyCar Series Official Rulebook"Official websiteeeeee