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What is/are the standard CLI program(s) to manage users and groups?Why does the 'bin' user need a login shell?Automate checking user submitted filesMultiple Lan interfaces on one VM rather than multiple VMGmail instant new mail notifier for Debian 7 systems?Setting up receive-only mail server and handling incoming mail and attachmentsMail one liner to check if null before sendingHow do I create a local mail account?Running script through ssh and evaluate some var/comand inside the host machineScript or makefile to automate new user creation?













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I'm looking to create a shell script that will accept userids as an argument to check if that user has unread mail in /var/spool/mail.



How would I even go about checking a user's mail status? Is /var/spool/mail only unread mail? If so, then I'm assuming I would just check for users with files of size greater than 0.










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  • will this script be running as root, and does it need to be portable?

    – thrig
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  • No it will not, and no it doesn't need to be portable.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 0:11











  • you can get only the file size (unless something set a looser umask than my MTA does) but that will not tell you whether the mail has been read or not

    – thrig
    Dec 12 '17 at 0:58















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I'm looking to create a shell script that will accept userids as an argument to check if that user has unread mail in /var/spool/mail.



How would I even go about checking a user's mail status? Is /var/spool/mail only unread mail? If so, then I'm assuming I would just check for users with files of size greater than 0.










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  • will this script be running as root, and does it need to be portable?

    – thrig
    Dec 11 '17 at 23:53











  • No it will not, and no it doesn't need to be portable.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 0:11











  • you can get only the file size (unless something set a looser umask than my MTA does) but that will not tell you whether the mail has been read or not

    – thrig
    Dec 12 '17 at 0:58













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I'm looking to create a shell script that will accept userids as an argument to check if that user has unread mail in /var/spool/mail.



How would I even go about checking a user's mail status? Is /var/spool/mail only unread mail? If so, then I'm assuming I would just check for users with files of size greater than 0.










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I'm looking to create a shell script that will accept userids as an argument to check if that user has unread mail in /var/spool/mail.



How would I even go about checking a user's mail status? Is /var/spool/mail only unread mail? If so, then I'm assuming I would just check for users with files of size greater than 0.







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  • will this script be running as root, and does it need to be portable?

    – thrig
    Dec 11 '17 at 23:53











  • No it will not, and no it doesn't need to be portable.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 0:11











  • you can get only the file size (unless something set a looser umask than my MTA does) but that will not tell you whether the mail has been read or not

    – thrig
    Dec 12 '17 at 0:58

















  • will this script be running as root, and does it need to be portable?

    – thrig
    Dec 11 '17 at 23:53











  • No it will not, and no it doesn't need to be portable.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 0:11











  • you can get only the file size (unless something set a looser umask than my MTA does) but that will not tell you whether the mail has been read or not

    – thrig
    Dec 12 '17 at 0:58
















will this script be running as root, and does it need to be portable?

– thrig
Dec 11 '17 at 23:53





will this script be running as root, and does it need to be portable?

– thrig
Dec 11 '17 at 23:53













No it will not, and no it doesn't need to be portable.

– linuxnewbie
Dec 12 '17 at 0:11





No it will not, and no it doesn't need to be portable.

– linuxnewbie
Dec 12 '17 at 0:11













you can get only the file size (unless something set a looser umask than my MTA does) but that will not tell you whether the mail has been read or not

– thrig
Dec 12 '17 at 0:58





you can get only the file size (unless something set a looser umask than my MTA does) but that will not tell you whether the mail has been read or not

– thrig
Dec 12 '17 at 0:58










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You could use mailx (formerly mail) command with options -e and u:




-e Just check if mail is present in the system mailbox. If yes, return an exit status of zero, else, a non-zero value.



-u user
Reads the mailbox of the given user name.




To allow non-root user to check the other user's email you have to create a sudo rule in the /etc/sudoers file that will allow that user to run mailx as root, e.g.:



fred localhost=/bin/mailx -e -u *


check man sudoers for the complete format.



Then you just test the exit status of



sudo mailx -e -u tom


executed by fred






share|improve this answer

























  • This looks like a great method, but I forgot to mention that I don't have root access.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 1:54











  • @linuxnewbie what keeps you from asking administrator to set the things for you if your intents are legitimate?

    – Serge
    Dec 12 '17 at 2:35











  • because this is a script/awk assignment and i'm only allowed to work with the permissions I currently have.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 2:59


















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One method that is used to find unread mail is to check the timestamps on the mail spool file. If the file was written to after it was accessed (read), i.e. its mtime is greater than atime, then there is unread mail:



for f in /var/spool/mail/* ; do 
[ $(stat -c '%Y -gt %X' "$f") ] && echo "$f has unread mail"
done


That of course considers everything in the mailbox as "read" after it's opened, regardless of if anyone looked at the individual messages.



In many cases, read messages are also moved away from the spool directory (to ~/mbox), so you could do with just checking the file size.






share|improve this answer

























  • I forgot to mention I don't have root access, will this still work? Also how does this script take in the userid as an argument? I need to check specific users.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 1:56












  • To my understand the /var/spool/mail/ directory is a temporary directory that only holds unread mail. Once it is opened it is either deleted or moved to a different directory thats dedicated to the user. So I should be able to see if the user has unread mail in there just based off of the directory size. I'm just not sure if all of this adds up lol

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 1:59











  • @linuxnewbie, you only need x access to the directory to stat a file, and you have that anyway, since otherwise you couldn't reach your own mail spool file. Of course, as written, it doesn't take an argument, but that's not a very hard exercise (start here: [Tests and Conditionals])mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/TestsAndConditionals) and the stat(1) man page). And sure, checking the size might be enough too. Depends on how the user works with their mailbox.

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    Dec 12 '17 at 7:42










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You could use mailx (formerly mail) command with options -e and u:




-e Just check if mail is present in the system mailbox. If yes, return an exit status of zero, else, a non-zero value.



-u user
Reads the mailbox of the given user name.




To allow non-root user to check the other user's email you have to create a sudo rule in the /etc/sudoers file that will allow that user to run mailx as root, e.g.:



fred localhost=/bin/mailx -e -u *


check man sudoers for the complete format.



Then you just test the exit status of



sudo mailx -e -u tom


executed by fred






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  • This looks like a great method, but I forgot to mention that I don't have root access.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 1:54











  • @linuxnewbie what keeps you from asking administrator to set the things for you if your intents are legitimate?

    – Serge
    Dec 12 '17 at 2:35











  • because this is a script/awk assignment and i'm only allowed to work with the permissions I currently have.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 2:59















0














You could use mailx (formerly mail) command with options -e and u:




-e Just check if mail is present in the system mailbox. If yes, return an exit status of zero, else, a non-zero value.



-u user
Reads the mailbox of the given user name.




To allow non-root user to check the other user's email you have to create a sudo rule in the /etc/sudoers file that will allow that user to run mailx as root, e.g.:



fred localhost=/bin/mailx -e -u *


check man sudoers for the complete format.



Then you just test the exit status of



sudo mailx -e -u tom


executed by fred






share|improve this answer

























  • This looks like a great method, but I forgot to mention that I don't have root access.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 1:54











  • @linuxnewbie what keeps you from asking administrator to set the things for you if your intents are legitimate?

    – Serge
    Dec 12 '17 at 2:35











  • because this is a script/awk assignment and i'm only allowed to work with the permissions I currently have.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 2:59













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You could use mailx (formerly mail) command with options -e and u:




-e Just check if mail is present in the system mailbox. If yes, return an exit status of zero, else, a non-zero value.



-u user
Reads the mailbox of the given user name.




To allow non-root user to check the other user's email you have to create a sudo rule in the /etc/sudoers file that will allow that user to run mailx as root, e.g.:



fred localhost=/bin/mailx -e -u *


check man sudoers for the complete format.



Then you just test the exit status of



sudo mailx -e -u tom


executed by fred






share|improve this answer















You could use mailx (formerly mail) command with options -e and u:




-e Just check if mail is present in the system mailbox. If yes, return an exit status of zero, else, a non-zero value.



-u user
Reads the mailbox of the given user name.




To allow non-root user to check the other user's email you have to create a sudo rule in the /etc/sudoers file that will allow that user to run mailx as root, e.g.:



fred localhost=/bin/mailx -e -u *


check man sudoers for the complete format.



Then you just test the exit status of



sudo mailx -e -u tom


executed by fred







share|improve this answer














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answered Dec 12 '17 at 1:15









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  • This looks like a great method, but I forgot to mention that I don't have root access.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 1:54











  • @linuxnewbie what keeps you from asking administrator to set the things for you if your intents are legitimate?

    – Serge
    Dec 12 '17 at 2:35











  • because this is a script/awk assignment and i'm only allowed to work with the permissions I currently have.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 2:59

















  • This looks like a great method, but I forgot to mention that I don't have root access.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 1:54











  • @linuxnewbie what keeps you from asking administrator to set the things for you if your intents are legitimate?

    – Serge
    Dec 12 '17 at 2:35











  • because this is a script/awk assignment and i'm only allowed to work with the permissions I currently have.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 2:59
















This looks like a great method, but I forgot to mention that I don't have root access.

– linuxnewbie
Dec 12 '17 at 1:54





This looks like a great method, but I forgot to mention that I don't have root access.

– linuxnewbie
Dec 12 '17 at 1:54













@linuxnewbie what keeps you from asking administrator to set the things for you if your intents are legitimate?

– Serge
Dec 12 '17 at 2:35





@linuxnewbie what keeps you from asking administrator to set the things for you if your intents are legitimate?

– Serge
Dec 12 '17 at 2:35













because this is a script/awk assignment and i'm only allowed to work with the permissions I currently have.

– linuxnewbie
Dec 12 '17 at 2:59





because this is a script/awk assignment and i'm only allowed to work with the permissions I currently have.

– linuxnewbie
Dec 12 '17 at 2:59













0














One method that is used to find unread mail is to check the timestamps on the mail spool file. If the file was written to after it was accessed (read), i.e. its mtime is greater than atime, then there is unread mail:



for f in /var/spool/mail/* ; do 
[ $(stat -c '%Y -gt %X' "$f") ] && echo "$f has unread mail"
done


That of course considers everything in the mailbox as "read" after it's opened, regardless of if anyone looked at the individual messages.



In many cases, read messages are also moved away from the spool directory (to ~/mbox), so you could do with just checking the file size.






share|improve this answer

























  • I forgot to mention I don't have root access, will this still work? Also how does this script take in the userid as an argument? I need to check specific users.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 1:56












  • To my understand the /var/spool/mail/ directory is a temporary directory that only holds unread mail. Once it is opened it is either deleted or moved to a different directory thats dedicated to the user. So I should be able to see if the user has unread mail in there just based off of the directory size. I'm just not sure if all of this adds up lol

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 1:59











  • @linuxnewbie, you only need x access to the directory to stat a file, and you have that anyway, since otherwise you couldn't reach your own mail spool file. Of course, as written, it doesn't take an argument, but that's not a very hard exercise (start here: [Tests and Conditionals])mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/TestsAndConditionals) and the stat(1) man page). And sure, checking the size might be enough too. Depends on how the user works with their mailbox.

    – ilkkachu
    Dec 12 '17 at 7:42















0














One method that is used to find unread mail is to check the timestamps on the mail spool file. If the file was written to after it was accessed (read), i.e. its mtime is greater than atime, then there is unread mail:



for f in /var/spool/mail/* ; do 
[ $(stat -c '%Y -gt %X' "$f") ] && echo "$f has unread mail"
done


That of course considers everything in the mailbox as "read" after it's opened, regardless of if anyone looked at the individual messages.



In many cases, read messages are also moved away from the spool directory (to ~/mbox), so you could do with just checking the file size.






share|improve this answer

























  • I forgot to mention I don't have root access, will this still work? Also how does this script take in the userid as an argument? I need to check specific users.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 1:56












  • To my understand the /var/spool/mail/ directory is a temporary directory that only holds unread mail. Once it is opened it is either deleted or moved to a different directory thats dedicated to the user. So I should be able to see if the user has unread mail in there just based off of the directory size. I'm just not sure if all of this adds up lol

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 1:59











  • @linuxnewbie, you only need x access to the directory to stat a file, and you have that anyway, since otherwise you couldn't reach your own mail spool file. Of course, as written, it doesn't take an argument, but that's not a very hard exercise (start here: [Tests and Conditionals])mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/TestsAndConditionals) and the stat(1) man page). And sure, checking the size might be enough too. Depends on how the user works with their mailbox.

    – ilkkachu
    Dec 12 '17 at 7:42













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One method that is used to find unread mail is to check the timestamps on the mail spool file. If the file was written to after it was accessed (read), i.e. its mtime is greater than atime, then there is unread mail:



for f in /var/spool/mail/* ; do 
[ $(stat -c '%Y -gt %X' "$f") ] && echo "$f has unread mail"
done


That of course considers everything in the mailbox as "read" after it's opened, regardless of if anyone looked at the individual messages.



In many cases, read messages are also moved away from the spool directory (to ~/mbox), so you could do with just checking the file size.






share|improve this answer















One method that is used to find unread mail is to check the timestamps on the mail spool file. If the file was written to after it was accessed (read), i.e. its mtime is greater than atime, then there is unread mail:



for f in /var/spool/mail/* ; do 
[ $(stat -c '%Y -gt %X' "$f") ] && echo "$f has unread mail"
done


That of course considers everything in the mailbox as "read" after it's opened, regardless of if anyone looked at the individual messages.



In many cases, read messages are also moved away from the spool directory (to ~/mbox), so you could do with just checking the file size.







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  • I forgot to mention I don't have root access, will this still work? Also how does this script take in the userid as an argument? I need to check specific users.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 1:56












  • To my understand the /var/spool/mail/ directory is a temporary directory that only holds unread mail. Once it is opened it is either deleted or moved to a different directory thats dedicated to the user. So I should be able to see if the user has unread mail in there just based off of the directory size. I'm just not sure if all of this adds up lol

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 1:59











  • @linuxnewbie, you only need x access to the directory to stat a file, and you have that anyway, since otherwise you couldn't reach your own mail spool file. Of course, as written, it doesn't take an argument, but that's not a very hard exercise (start here: [Tests and Conditionals])mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/TestsAndConditionals) and the stat(1) man page). And sure, checking the size might be enough too. Depends on how the user works with their mailbox.

    – ilkkachu
    Dec 12 '17 at 7:42

















  • I forgot to mention I don't have root access, will this still work? Also how does this script take in the userid as an argument? I need to check specific users.

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 1:56












  • To my understand the /var/spool/mail/ directory is a temporary directory that only holds unread mail. Once it is opened it is either deleted or moved to a different directory thats dedicated to the user. So I should be able to see if the user has unread mail in there just based off of the directory size. I'm just not sure if all of this adds up lol

    – linuxnewbie
    Dec 12 '17 at 1:59











  • @linuxnewbie, you only need x access to the directory to stat a file, and you have that anyway, since otherwise you couldn't reach your own mail spool file. Of course, as written, it doesn't take an argument, but that's not a very hard exercise (start here: [Tests and Conditionals])mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/TestsAndConditionals) and the stat(1) man page). And sure, checking the size might be enough too. Depends on how the user works with their mailbox.

    – ilkkachu
    Dec 12 '17 at 7:42
















I forgot to mention I don't have root access, will this still work? Also how does this script take in the userid as an argument? I need to check specific users.

– linuxnewbie
Dec 12 '17 at 1:56






I forgot to mention I don't have root access, will this still work? Also how does this script take in the userid as an argument? I need to check specific users.

– linuxnewbie
Dec 12 '17 at 1:56














To my understand the /var/spool/mail/ directory is a temporary directory that only holds unread mail. Once it is opened it is either deleted or moved to a different directory thats dedicated to the user. So I should be able to see if the user has unread mail in there just based off of the directory size. I'm just not sure if all of this adds up lol

– linuxnewbie
Dec 12 '17 at 1:59





To my understand the /var/spool/mail/ directory is a temporary directory that only holds unread mail. Once it is opened it is either deleted or moved to a different directory thats dedicated to the user. So I should be able to see if the user has unread mail in there just based off of the directory size. I'm just not sure if all of this adds up lol

– linuxnewbie
Dec 12 '17 at 1:59













@linuxnewbie, you only need x access to the directory to stat a file, and you have that anyway, since otherwise you couldn't reach your own mail spool file. Of course, as written, it doesn't take an argument, but that's not a very hard exercise (start here: [Tests and Conditionals])mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/TestsAndConditionals) and the stat(1) man page). And sure, checking the size might be enough too. Depends on how the user works with their mailbox.

– ilkkachu
Dec 12 '17 at 7:42





@linuxnewbie, you only need x access to the directory to stat a file, and you have that anyway, since otherwise you couldn't reach your own mail spool file. Of course, as written, it doesn't take an argument, but that's not a very hard exercise (start here: [Tests and Conditionals])mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/TestsAndConditionals) and the stat(1) man page). And sure, checking the size might be enough too. Depends on how the user works with their mailbox.

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