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From a discussion on useless use of cat.



I decided to see if It was possible to avoid some of the troubles by changing the owner of the pipe. So I did:



# cat | cat &
[1] 16500
# cd /proc/16500/fd
# ls -l
lr-x------ root root 0 -> pipe:[931613]
lrwx------ root root 1 -> /dev/tty1
lrwx------ root root 2 -> /dev/tty1
# chown --dereference daemon 0
# ls -l
lr-x------ root root 0 -> pipe:[931613]
lrwx------ root root 1 -> /dev/tty1
lrwx------ root root 2 -> /dev/tty1


I also tried chown and chown -L. No go. I'm convinced this is simply impossible, but why? They clearly have inodes. That 931613 is the inode number.



In the case I am actually interested in, the process on the right would be running at lower privileges and I'd kind of like it to own its own handles so that it can re-open them.










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    2















    From a discussion on useless use of cat.



    I decided to see if It was possible to avoid some of the troubles by changing the owner of the pipe. So I did:



    # cat | cat &
    [1] 16500
    # cd /proc/16500/fd
    # ls -l
    lr-x------ root root 0 -> pipe:[931613]
    lrwx------ root root 1 -> /dev/tty1
    lrwx------ root root 2 -> /dev/tty1
    # chown --dereference daemon 0
    # ls -l
    lr-x------ root root 0 -> pipe:[931613]
    lrwx------ root root 1 -> /dev/tty1
    lrwx------ root root 2 -> /dev/tty1


    I also tried chown and chown -L. No go. I'm convinced this is simply impossible, but why? They clearly have inodes. That 931613 is the inode number.



    In the case I am actually interested in, the process on the right would be running at lower privileges and I'd kind of like it to own its own handles so that it can re-open them.










    share|improve this question













    put on hold as off-topic by Stephen Harris, muru, roaima, Kusalananda 23 hours ago


    This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


    • "Questions describing a problem that can't be reproduced and seemingly went away on its own (or went away when a typo was fixed) are off-topic as they are unlikely to help future readers." – Stephen Harris, muru, roaima, Kusalananda
    If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.


















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      From a discussion on useless use of cat.



      I decided to see if It was possible to avoid some of the troubles by changing the owner of the pipe. So I did:



      # cat | cat &
      [1] 16500
      # cd /proc/16500/fd
      # ls -l
      lr-x------ root root 0 -> pipe:[931613]
      lrwx------ root root 1 -> /dev/tty1
      lrwx------ root root 2 -> /dev/tty1
      # chown --dereference daemon 0
      # ls -l
      lr-x------ root root 0 -> pipe:[931613]
      lrwx------ root root 1 -> /dev/tty1
      lrwx------ root root 2 -> /dev/tty1


      I also tried chown and chown -L. No go. I'm convinced this is simply impossible, but why? They clearly have inodes. That 931613 is the inode number.



      In the case I am actually interested in, the process on the right would be running at lower privileges and I'd kind of like it to own its own handles so that it can re-open them.










      share|improve this question














      From a discussion on useless use of cat.



      I decided to see if It was possible to avoid some of the troubles by changing the owner of the pipe. So I did:



      # cat | cat &
      [1] 16500
      # cd /proc/16500/fd
      # ls -l
      lr-x------ root root 0 -> pipe:[931613]
      lrwx------ root root 1 -> /dev/tty1
      lrwx------ root root 2 -> /dev/tty1
      # chown --dereference daemon 0
      # ls -l
      lr-x------ root root 0 -> pipe:[931613]
      lrwx------ root root 1 -> /dev/tty1
      lrwx------ root root 2 -> /dev/tty1


      I also tried chown and chown -L. No go. I'm convinced this is simply impossible, but why? They clearly have inodes. That 931613 is the inode number.



      In the case I am actually interested in, the process on the right would be running at lower privileges and I'd kind of like it to own its own handles so that it can re-open them.







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          Turns out I goofed up my ls command.



          # ls -lL
          lr-x------ daemon root 0 -> pipe:[931613]
          lrwx------ root root 1 -> /dev/tty1
          lrwx------ root root 2 -> /dev/tty1





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            Turns out I goofed up my ls command.



            # ls -lL
            lr-x------ daemon root 0 -> pipe:[931613]
            lrwx------ root root 1 -> /dev/tty1
            lrwx------ root root 2 -> /dev/tty1





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              Turns out I goofed up my ls command.



              # ls -lL
              lr-x------ daemon root 0 -> pipe:[931613]
              lrwx------ root root 1 -> /dev/tty1
              lrwx------ root root 2 -> /dev/tty1





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                Turns out I goofed up my ls command.



                # ls -lL
                lr-x------ daemon root 0 -> pipe:[931613]
                lrwx------ root root 1 -> /dev/tty1
                lrwx------ root root 2 -> /dev/tty1





                share|improve this answer













                Turns out I goofed up my ls command.



                # ls -lL
                lr-x------ daemon root 0 -> pipe:[931613]
                lrwx------ root root 1 -> /dev/tty1
                lrwx------ root root 2 -> /dev/tty1






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