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Is there anything in the Tanakh or Talmud about co-wives helping raise the child of other co-wives upon widowhood (or absence of husband)?
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To celebrate Mi Yodeya's tenth birthday, let's divide and conquer the entire…Is there anything in the Tanakh or Talmud about a woman that raises her children alone?Does a Man's other children indicate anything about his wife unable to have children for 10 years?What defines an Almana?Is there anything in the Tanakh or Talmud about a woman that raises her children alone?What teshuvot address educating children on inappropriate touch?Is there a discussion in the Talmud or Halacha about “בְּתוּלִים” or “בְּתוּלֵי בִתִּי” (Parashat Ki Teitzei / פרשת כי־תצא)?What is gidul bonim (raising children), and who is responsible for itWhat is the number one or the most recommended Talmud/Gemara passage for a child to begin studying?Proof of one side or question on the other, talmudChildren of the Exodus (families, names, ages)Does anything in the Tanakh resemble the quote “Each shall seek his own kind”?
I just met an Israeli woman, who said that she became a widow when her first and only child was five years old.
She said that if it wasn't for her husband having more than one wife, with whom she got along fine and co-raised her child together, she would have ended up in a bad situation. That is all the information I received from her.
My question has nothing to do with whether polygamy is right or wrong, and therefore one can refrain from such answers.
My question is: Is there anything in the Tanakh or Talmud about sister-wives (or better co-wives?) helping raise the child of other sister-wives (or co-wives) upon widowhood (or absence of husband)?
I was not going to ask my question, but I was inspired by this:
Is there anything in the Tanakh or Talmud about a woman that raises her children alone?
talmud-gemara women tanach children-parenting polygamy
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I just met an Israeli woman, who said that she became a widow when her first and only child was five years old.
She said that if it wasn't for her husband having more than one wife, with whom she got along fine and co-raised her child together, she would have ended up in a bad situation. That is all the information I received from her.
My question has nothing to do with whether polygamy is right or wrong, and therefore one can refrain from such answers.
My question is: Is there anything in the Tanakh or Talmud about sister-wives (or better co-wives?) helping raise the child of other sister-wives (or co-wives) upon widowhood (or absence of husband)?
I was not going to ask my question, but I was inspired by this:
Is there anything in the Tanakh or Talmud about a woman that raises her children alone?
talmud-gemara women tanach children-parenting polygamy
asked 21 hours ago
ninamagninamag
109517
IMHO "sister-wives" is not a happy designation. "Co-wives" might be better. After all a man cannot marry two sisters.
– Avrohom Yitzchok
21 hours ago
@AvrohomYitzchok I do not mind somebody changing or editing it to co-wives.
– ninamag
21 hours ago
@AvrohomYitzchok I just edited it as per your comment, but as soon as my finger hit the keys, the thought came to me that "co" suggests "co-equal" and sarah and hagar were definitely not "co-equal".
– ninamag
20 hours ago
Kesubos 59b says a wife is expected to nurse her babies, implying not any of her husband's from a different wife. I suppose that's a counterexample ... but it highlights the dynamic you're discussing.
– Shalom
19 hours ago
@Shalom the answer below, a commentary from rashi, suggests that Bilhah nursed Rachel's child(ren): הבוא נבוא: והלא אמך כבר מתה. והוא לא היה יודע שהדברים מגיעין לבלהה, שגדלתו כאמו.
– ninamag
19 hours ago
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I just met an Israeli woman, who said that she became a widow when her first and only child was five years old.
She said that if it wasn't for her husband having more than one wife, with whom she got along fine and co-raised her child together, she would have ended up in a bad situation. That is all the information I received from her.
My question has nothing to do with whether polygamy is right or wrong, and therefore one can refrain from such answers.
My question is: Is there anything in the Tanakh or Talmud about sister-wives (or better co-wives?) helping raise the child of other sister-wives (or co-wives) upon widowhood (or absence of husband)?
I was not going to ask my question, but I was inspired by this:
Is there anything in the Tanakh or Talmud about a woman that raises her children alone?
talmud-gemara women tanach children-parenting polygamy
asked 21 hours ago
ninamagninamag
109517
I just met an Israeli woman, who said that she became a widow when her first and only child was five years old.
She said that if it wasn't for her husband having more than one wife, with whom she got along fine and co-raised her child together, she would have ended up in a bad situation. That is all the information I received from her.
My question has nothing to do with whether polygamy is right or wrong, and therefore one can refrain from such answers.
My question is: Is there anything in the Tanakh or Talmud about sister-wives (or better co-wives?) helping raise the child of other sister-wives (or co-wives) upon widowhood (or absence of husband)?
I was not going to ask my question, but I was inspired by this:
Is there anything in the Tanakh or Talmud about a woman that raises her children alone?
talmud-gemara women tanach children-parenting polygamy
talmud-gemara women tanach children-parenting polygamy
asked 21 hours ago
ninamagninamag
109517
asked 21 hours ago
ninamagninamag
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edited 19 hours ago
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109517
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asked 21 hours ago
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IMHO "sister-wives" is not a happy designation. "Co-wives" might be better. After all a man cannot marry two sisters.
– Avrohom Yitzchok
21 hours ago
@AvrohomYitzchok I do not mind somebody changing or editing it to co-wives.
– ninamag
21 hours ago
@AvrohomYitzchok I just edited it as per your comment, but as soon as my finger hit the keys, the thought came to me that "co" suggests "co-equal" and sarah and hagar were definitely not "co-equal".
– ninamag
20 hours ago
Kesubos 59b says a wife is expected to nurse her babies, implying not any of her husband's from a different wife. I suppose that's a counterexample ... but it highlights the dynamic you're discussing.
– Shalom
19 hours ago
@Shalom the answer below, a commentary from rashi, suggests that Bilhah nursed Rachel's child(ren): הבוא נבוא: והלא אמך כבר מתה. והוא לא היה יודע שהדברים מגיעין לבלהה, שגדלתו כאמו.
– ninamag
19 hours ago
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IMHO "sister-wives" is not a happy designation. "Co-wives" might be better. After all a man cannot marry two sisters.
– Avrohom Yitzchok
21 hours ago
@AvrohomYitzchok I do not mind somebody changing or editing it to co-wives.
– ninamag
21 hours ago
@AvrohomYitzchok I just edited it as per your comment, but as soon as my finger hit the keys, the thought came to me that "co" suggests "co-equal" and sarah and hagar were definitely not "co-equal".
– ninamag
20 hours ago
Kesubos 59b says a wife is expected to nurse her babies, implying not any of her husband's from a different wife. I suppose that's a counterexample ... but it highlights the dynamic you're discussing.
– Shalom
19 hours ago
@Shalom the answer below, a commentary from rashi, suggests that Bilhah nursed Rachel's child(ren): הבוא נבוא: והלא אמך כבר מתה. והוא לא היה יודע שהדברים מגיעין לבלהה, שגדלתו כאמו.
– ninamag
19 hours ago
IMHO "sister-wives" is not a happy designation. "Co-wives" might be better. After all a man cannot marry two sisters.
– Avrohom Yitzchok
21 hours ago
IMHO "sister-wives" is not a happy designation. "Co-wives" might be better. After all a man cannot marry two sisters.
– Avrohom Yitzchok
21 hours ago
@AvrohomYitzchok I do not mind somebody changing or editing it to co-wives.
– ninamag
21 hours ago
@AvrohomYitzchok I do not mind somebody changing or editing it to co-wives.
– ninamag
21 hours ago
@AvrohomYitzchok I just edited it as per your comment, but as soon as my finger hit the keys, the thought came to me that "co" suggests "co-equal" and sarah and hagar were definitely not "co-equal".
– ninamag
20 hours ago
@AvrohomYitzchok I just edited it as per your comment, but as soon as my finger hit the keys, the thought came to me that "co" suggests "co-equal" and sarah and hagar were definitely not "co-equal".
– ninamag
20 hours ago
Kesubos 59b says a wife is expected to nurse her babies, implying not any of her husband's from a different wife. I suppose that's a counterexample ... but it highlights the dynamic you're discussing.
– Shalom
19 hours ago
Kesubos 59b says a wife is expected to nurse her babies, implying not any of her husband's from a different wife. I suppose that's a counterexample ... but it highlights the dynamic you're discussing.
– Shalom
19 hours ago
@Shalom the answer below, a commentary from rashi, suggests that Bilhah nursed Rachel's child(ren): הבוא נבוא: והלא אמך כבר מתה. והוא לא היה יודע שהדברים מגיעין לבלהה, שגדלתו כאמו.
– ninamag
19 hours ago
@Shalom the answer below, a commentary from rashi, suggests that Bilhah nursed Rachel's child(ren): הבוא נבוא: והלא אמך כבר מתה. והוא לא היה יודע שהדברים מגיעין לבלהה, שגדלתו כאמו.
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Note: This is an example of co-wives helping each other raise their children with complete lack of presence of the father (Yaakov) who was working like a slave day and night see bereishit 31,40 (for Lavan)and was effectively not able to be present to raise his kids .
When Rachel's maidservant Bilhah gave birth to Dan, Rachel said Bereishit 30,6: "G-d judged me and listened to me and gave me a son" which means she raised Dan as a son even though she was not his biological mother (no doubt Bilhah also played a major role raising Dan as well).
Another example is after Rachel died of childbirth and Yaakov became a widower from his main wife, Bilhah in turn raised Rachel's children. Rashi quoting Midrash Rabba 84,11 asks regarding Yosefs dream of the sun moon and stars bowing down to him Bereishis 37,10:
"הבוא נבוא אני ואמך"
- והלא אמך כבר מתה? והוא לא היה יודע שהדברים מגיעים לבלהה שגדלתו כאמו
-if Rochel was dead who was the moon? The moon refers to Bilhah who raised Yosef like a mother
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Upvote from me, for finding this: הבוא נבוא: והלא אמך כבר מתה. והוא לא היה יודע שהדברים מגיעין לבלהה, שגדלתו כאמו.
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Note: This is an example of co-wives helping each other raise their children with complete lack of presence of the father (Yaakov) who was working like a slave day and night see bereishit 31,40 (for Lavan)and was effectively not able to be present to raise his kids .
When Rachel's maidservant Bilhah gave birth to Dan, Rachel said Bereishit 30,6: "G-d judged me and listened to me and gave me a son" which means she raised Dan as a son even though she was not his biological mother (no doubt Bilhah also played a major role raising Dan as well).
Another example is after Rachel died of childbirth and Yaakov became a widower from his main wife, Bilhah in turn raised Rachel's children. Rashi quoting Midrash Rabba 84,11 asks regarding Yosefs dream of the sun moon and stars bowing down to him Bereishis 37,10:
"הבוא נבוא אני ואמך"
- והלא אמך כבר מתה? והוא לא היה יודע שהדברים מגיעים לבלהה שגדלתו כאמו
-if Rochel was dead who was the moon? The moon refers to Bilhah who raised Yosef like a mother
answered 19 hours ago
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Upvote from me, for finding this: הבוא נבוא: והלא אמך כבר מתה. והוא לא היה יודע שהדברים מגיעין לבלהה, שגדלתו כאמו.
– ninamag
19 hours ago
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Note: This is an example of co-wives helping each other raise their children with complete lack of presence of the father (Yaakov) who was working like a slave day and night see bereishit 31,40 (for Lavan)and was effectively not able to be present to raise his kids .
When Rachel's maidservant Bilhah gave birth to Dan, Rachel said Bereishit 30,6: "G-d judged me and listened to me and gave me a son" which means she raised Dan as a son even though she was not his biological mother (no doubt Bilhah also played a major role raising Dan as well).
Another example is after Rachel died of childbirth and Yaakov became a widower from his main wife, Bilhah in turn raised Rachel's children. Rashi quoting Midrash Rabba 84,11 asks regarding Yosefs dream of the sun moon and stars bowing down to him Bereishis 37,10:
"הבוא נבוא אני ואמך"
- והלא אמך כבר מתה? והוא לא היה יודע שהדברים מגיעים לבלהה שגדלתו כאמו
-if Rochel was dead who was the moon? The moon refers to Bilhah who raised Yosef like a mother
answered 19 hours ago
user15464user15464
6,0351071
Upvote from me, for finding this: הבוא נבוא: והלא אמך כבר מתה. והוא לא היה יודע שהדברים מגיעין לבלהה, שגדלתו כאמו.
– ninamag
19 hours ago
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Note: This is an example of co-wives helping each other raise their children with complete lack of presence of the father (Yaakov) who was working like a slave day and night see bereishit 31,40 (for Lavan)and was effectively not able to be present to raise his kids .
When Rachel's maidservant Bilhah gave birth to Dan, Rachel said Bereishit 30,6: "G-d judged me and listened to me and gave me a son" which means she raised Dan as a son even though she was not his biological mother (no doubt Bilhah also played a major role raising Dan as well).
Another example is after Rachel died of childbirth and Yaakov became a widower from his main wife, Bilhah in turn raised Rachel's children. Rashi quoting Midrash Rabba 84,11 asks regarding Yosefs dream of the sun moon and stars bowing down to him Bereishis 37,10:
"הבוא נבוא אני ואמך"
- והלא אמך כבר מתה? והוא לא היה יודע שהדברים מגיעים לבלהה שגדלתו כאמו
-if Rochel was dead who was the moon? The moon refers to Bilhah who raised Yosef like a mother
answered 19 hours ago
user15464user15464
6,0351071
Note: This is an example of co-wives helping each other raise their children with complete lack of presence of the father (Yaakov) who was working like a slave day and night see bereishit 31,40 (for Lavan)and was effectively not able to be present to raise his kids .
When Rachel's maidservant Bilhah gave birth to Dan, Rachel said Bereishit 30,6: "G-d judged me and listened to me and gave me a son" which means she raised Dan as a son even though she was not his biological mother (no doubt Bilhah also played a major role raising Dan as well).
Another example is after Rachel died of childbirth and Yaakov became a widower from his main wife, Bilhah in turn raised Rachel's children. Rashi quoting Midrash Rabba 84,11 asks regarding Yosefs dream of the sun moon and stars bowing down to him Bereishis 37,10:
"הבוא נבוא אני ואמך"
- והלא אמך כבר מתה? והוא לא היה יודע שהדברים מגיעים לבלהה שגדלתו כאמו
-if Rochel was dead who was the moon? The moon refers to Bilhah who raised Yosef like a mother
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Upvote from me, for finding this: הבוא נבוא: והלא אמך כבר מתה. והוא לא היה יודע שהדברים מגיעין לבלהה, שגדלתו כאמו.
– ninamag
19 hours ago
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Upvote from me, for finding this: הבוא נבוא: והלא אמך כבר מתה. והוא לא היה יודע שהדברים מגיעין לבלהה, שגדלתו כאמו.
– ninamag
19 hours ago
Upvote from me, for finding this: הבוא נבוא: והלא אמך כבר מתה. והוא לא היה יודע שהדברים מגיעין לבלהה, שגדלתו כאמו.
– ninamag
19 hours ago
Upvote from me, for finding this: הבוא נבוא: והלא אמך כבר מתה. והוא לא היה יודע שהדברים מגיעין לבלהה, שגדלתו כאמו.
– ninamag
19 hours ago
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-children-parenting, polygamy, talmud-gemara, tanach, women
IMHO "sister-wives" is not a happy designation. "Co-wives" might be better. After all a man cannot marry two sisters.
– Avrohom Yitzchok
21 hours ago
@AvrohomYitzchok I do not mind somebody changing or editing it to co-wives.
– ninamag
21 hours ago
@AvrohomYitzchok I just edited it as per your comment, but as soon as my finger hit the keys, the thought came to me that "co" suggests "co-equal" and sarah and hagar were definitely not "co-equal".
– ninamag
20 hours ago
Kesubos 59b says a wife is expected to nurse her babies, implying not any of her husband's from a different wife. I suppose that's a counterexample ... but it highlights the dynamic you're discussing.
– Shalom
19 hours ago
@Shalom the answer below, a commentary from rashi, suggests that Bilhah nursed Rachel's child(ren): הבוא נבוא: והלא אמך כבר מתה. והוא לא היה יודע שהדברים מגיעין לבלהה, שגדלתו כאמו.
– ninamag
19 hours ago