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It is fairly standard to receive a significant number of minor hacking attempts each day trying common username / passwords for services like SSH and SMTP. I've always assumed these attempts are using the "small" address space of IPv4 to guess IP addresses. I notice that I get zero hacking attempts on IPv6 despite my domain having AAAA Name records mirroring every A Name record and all IPv4 services are also open to IPv6.

Assuming a public DNS (AWS route 53) with an obscure subdomain pointing to a reasonably randomised 64 suffix; Are IPv6 addresses and / subdomains remotely discoverable without trying every address in a 64 bit prefix or every subdomain in a very long list of common names?

I am of course aware that crawling the web looking for listed (sub)domain names is simple enough. I'm also aware that machines on the same subnet can use NDP. I'm more interested in whether DNS or the underlying protocols of IPv6 allow discovery / listing unknown domains and addresses by remote.

Malicious bots don't guess IPv4 addresses anymore. They simply try them all. On modern systems this can take as little as a few hours.

With IPv6, this is not really possible any longer, as you've surmised. The address space is so much larger that it's not even possible to brute-force scan a single /64 subnet within a human lifetime.

Bots will have to get more creative if they are to continue blind scanning on IPv6 as on IPv4, and malicious bot operators will have to get accustomed to waiting far longer between finding any machines, let alone vulnerable ones.

Fortunately for the bad guys and unfortunately for everyone else, IPv6 adoption has gone much more slowly than it really should have. IPv6 is 23 years old but has only seen significant adoption in the last five years or so. But everyone is keeping their IPv4 networks active, and extremely few hosts are IPv6-only, so malicious bot operators have had little incentive to make the switch. They probably won't do until there is a significant abandonment of IPv4, which probably won't happen in the next five years.

I expect that blind guessing probably won't be productive for malicious bots, when they finally do move to IPv6, so they'll have to move to other means, like brute-forcing DNS names, or targeted brute-forcing of small subsets of each subnet.

For instance, a common DHCPv6 server configuration gives out addresses in ::100 through ::1ff by default. That's just 256 addresses to try, out of a whole /64. Reconfiguring the DHCPv6 server to pick addresses from a much larger range mitigates this problem.

And using modified EUI-64 addresses for SLAAC reduces the search space to 2^24 multiplied by the number of assigned OUIs. While this is over 100 billion addresses, it's far less than 2^64. Random bots won't bother to search this space, but state-level malicious actors will, for targeted attacks, especially if they can make educated guesses as to which NICs might be in use, to reduce the search space further. Using RFC 7217 stable privacy addresses for SLAAC is easy (at least on modern operating systems that support it) and mitigates this risk.

Regarding AAAA records:

DNS is traditionally unencrypted. While there is a family of standards (DNSSEC) for signing DNS, the encryption of DNS records has had a far more haphazard deployment process, and so it is generally safest to assume that any MitM can read all of your DNS queries unless you have gone out of your way to configure encrypted DNS explicitly on the client side. You would know if you had done so because it's quite an ordeal.

(Also, your web browser is probably sending unencrypted SNI in the TLS handshake, after it has resolved the domain. It is not obvious how you would go about plugging this hole, since a VPN or Tor can still be MitM'd between the exit node or VPN termination point and the remote server. The good folks at Cloudflare are working on fixing this problem for good, but ESNI will also depend on client implementation, particularly for Chrome, if it's going to really get off the ground.)

However, MitM attacks may or may not be a problem, depending on your threat model. More important is the simple fact that DNS names are intended to be public information. Lots of people (search engines, DNS registrars, etc.) collect and publicize DNS names for entirely benign reasons. DNS resolvers typically apply rate limits, but these limits are usually quite generous, because they're meant to stop DoS attacks, not subdomain enumeration. Creating an HTTPS certificate often involves publishing the domain name for all to see, depending on the CA (Let's Encrypt does it, and so do many others). In practice, it is quite impossible to keep a domain or subdomain a secret, because just about everyone assumes they are public and makes no effort to hide them.

So, to answer this question:

I'm more interested in whether DNS or the underlying protocols of IPv6 allow discovery / listing unknown domains and addresses by remote.

Technically, no, it doesn't. But that does not matter because an enormous amount of higher-layer technology just assumes your DNS records are public, so public they will inevitably be.

I've found that MANY bots these days are not guessing, with IPv4 or IPv6. Security through obscurity is not security at all. Obscurity simply delays / reduces the number of attacks for a while, and then it is irrelevant.

Hackers know your company's domain name from your website or email address, what public server IPs you publish for things like email, SPF, web servers, etc. Though it may take them a bit longer to learn a random server name, but they will guess the common names, like www, mail, smtp, imap, pop, pop3, ns1, etc, and then scrape your website for any additional data they can find. They will retrieve from their store of previous scans your DNS names, IPs and what ports to focus on. They will also retrieve a list of email address / password pairs from any data breaches they can find and try all of those logins plus some extra ones with whatever systems they think you are running on your ports. They even go to the extent of learning the names and job roles of your staff to try and execute a social engineered attack. Our spam filter is continuously bombarded with attempts by scammers claiming to be someone from management needing an urgent wire transfer of funds. Oh they also learn who your business partners are and claim to be them, and letting you know their bank details have changed. Sometimes they even know what cloud platforms your business partners are using for their invoicing.

Criminals have access to big data tools just the same as everyone else, and they have amassed a surprisingly huge amount of data. See this testimony by some IT professionals to US congress https://www.troyhunt.com/heres-what-im-telling-us-congress-about-data-breaches/

Talking about data breaches, if a company looses something even as seemingly useless as a web server log, this will contain IP addresses v4 or v6 of everyone who used that server at that time, and what pages they accessed.

In conclusion, none of those methods require an attacker to guess what IP you are using, they already know.